Citizen Militia Fighting Against Federal Land Grab.

[kevin kiernan]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-spurred-the-armed-occupation-...

[M]

Statement from the Oath Keepers;

 http://conservativetribune.com/oath-keepers-oregon-standoff/#sthash...

 If it starts, let the Feds start it, that way we the people have the high moral ground and from that the support of the Nation. If we start it we lose.

[kevin kiernan]

Yep, I have faith in Ammon Bundy to do the right thing. I have done a lot of research over his fathers ranch, I seems like I know the Bundy`s personally. Especially Ammon. I just worry about some moron with itchy finger. There is no doubt that  they have brought attention to the Town of Burns ,and the BLM over reach land grab.I watched a town hall meeting and someone said that it is on the radar of Congress. The Militia group is in for a long stay at the refuge I think.I am looking for donation page to help with their expenses. I am sure these are not rich people who are doing such a Patriotic thing.I am sure many people would donate 10 or 20 bucks to help out.Plus it would give a person a way they could help and feel a part of it.

[jack ludwig]

wasn't the first move taking over the federal building?

[kevin kiernan]

Do you mean the public refuge ?

[jack ludwig]

yes Kevin, public refuge, a federal building on federal land.

[kevin kiernan]

That depends on what narrative the author wants put forth. One can tell were someone stands on issues when you listen to how they talk about an issue. It is more telling then what they are saying because one can lie about an issue. I put a lot of weight on a persons countenance when they speak. Just to let you know ,I am extremely good at poker. ..Any way, I like to say We The People`s Building on We The People`s Land. The BLM is hired by We The People to manage our building on our land.....Now that is what I call a correct Constitutional explanation.

[kevin kiernan]

The first move if you have been checking the videos of them speaking for themselves. Was the months of letter writing and petitions that were done. All the forms filled out ,phone calls and the jumping through hoops that they make you do. The intimidation to the residents has gone on and on. So after all that with no response at all, Then they moved to occupy the property and buildings at the refuge... So my answer to your question would be ...."Negative"

[jack ludwig]

we still have courts of law Kevin to resolve disputes.

[Rhodes]

You mean the same courts that re-sentenced those guys to 5 full years after already being sentenced somewhat sanely if not strictly according to the statute?

Those courts?

Kevin you are wasting your time.

[kevin kiernan]

I know Rhodes. But Jack asking questions like he does only gives me the avenue to speak and put info.on the board here. Kinda like Abbot and Costello if you know what I mean. When I get annoyed with it I`ll just move on rather than get angry...It takes a lot to get my Goat.

[Rhodes]

No judgement it is your time but there is not much traffic here to fight the good fight. 

I do believe that it is fear of the state that accounts for most of every day statism displayed by Joe citizen across the land.

The rant from Network keeps popping into my head. The only redeming factor of that god awful movie. Its long past time to get mad as hell.

[jack ludwig]

Kevin I asked question to give you the opportunity to explain your position. If we are to have a debate is it not helpful to clarify if I have a concern. If you can explain my concern maybe you can win your position.