What are your thoughts on our movement’s future?

[Green2]

I know I’m new here but I have posted this on some other sites and would like you input. Please don’t take this as an attempt to “take over” just to stimulate the discussion.

One of the most discussed and ignored question I’ve read on the groups I’ve joined is what is next? Should we form a third party? Some say join the minority party AKA the GOP along with a few other suggestions. I’ve been thinking about it and here are my 2 cents or is it only worth 1 cent now (inflation is a b*$ch).

First form a third party.

The Benefits: we could start from scratch with a foundation that is sound and free of progressive/moderates that now poison the traditional party of conservatism the GOP and the negative reputation that party has developed with the body politic that makes up both the voting minority in this country and the ignorant majority.

The Detriments: what modern (1945-2009) third party has yet been successful? Lack of name recognition, lack of respect from any of the major media formats (Print, Big Three TV networks, Cable Networks and to a great extent the Internet and Radio). This lack of respect and name recognition makes raising money to pay for even local campaigns difficult. No one takes a third party seriously.

Suggestions to overcome Detriments: Organize and start small and focus on one town/city/county or in RI case the whole state. Put all our effort into these local elections and ignore the national races (Senate, House of Representatives, President ect.) and the state wide executive positions (Governor, Treasurer, AG ect.). Gain power in these locations and establish a reputation. I think the biggest problem the Libertarians have is they are to disorganized and trying to do to much with to little. Pick and win our fights.

Second join the GOP.

The Benefits: Well established name recognition and historical track record of conservatism and historical figures to emulate (Lincoln, Reagan). Access to campaign donor lists ($$$$$$).

The Detriments: Well established name recognition and historical track record of backsliding on conservative principles just to be “liked” by the media and pander to the uniformed electorate. Media bias and successful progressive campaigns to label party as sudo-facist. Just as many of us dislike the GOP as we do the Democratic Party.

Suggestions to overcome Detriments: Take over the GOP using the same suggestions for overcoming the detriments to forming a third party. Take over the town parties first and the state and national will fallow. Start small and take control of the GOP by moving out Progressive and failed old guard career politicians.

Third form a Political Action Comity (PAC) or a standard 527 Group. Some of the groups have already decided to make this transition. Mike of Gods Angels of Freedom also recommended this at least once at the 13 May meeting in Charles Town.

The Benefits: Allows individuals to select specific issues to support based on the groups they choose to join. Each group selects an individual issue or group of similar issues to champion. This would prevent infighting and be an example of voting with our money and memberships in specific groups.

The Detriments: Lack of focus and unity of force. The potential arises that we become disunited and brake into factions. History has shone that movements that are disunited and splintered fail for lack of momentum.

Suggestions to Overcome Detriments: Organized one overall PAC or 527 to act as a unifying umbrella organizations we can all fall under. Then as Mike of Gods Angels of Freedom suggested organize one group for each issue that matters to our movement. The web site for the umbrella organization would have the links to each sub issue group. In this way we would all chose to join the sub groups we wish too.

I would further suggest that the umbrella group set up a mechanism by using the sub groups as the issue experts to rate each candidate in each race base on that candidate’s support of opposition to our movement. Each sub issue group would also be responsible to educating the remainder of the movement on their particular issue. In this way no single person or group would have the reasonability to research every issue. This specialization will improve the quality of information. Then the top five educational pieces from each sub group would be published on the umbrella site. Meetings and protest would be coordinated and scheduled by the umbrella site.

I don’t have all the answers just suggestions. What does every one else think and please publish your thoughts and send them to me and your organizations leaders.

[Crazy Conservative Momma]

I think that the conservatives need to take over the Republican party again!

[Green2]

I've posted more on this on another discustion Here are the results of your thoughts. How would you go about doing it?

[Crazy Conservative Momma]

Maybe we could clothesline the moderates - just kidding. Conservatives should take part in VOTING, for one thing. The turnout for the NY20 US House race several weeks ago was pathetic, and the Republican was fairly conservative. He lost by a very small margin; if more conservatives would get out there and actually vote, that might help. We need to take perrsonal responsibility for educating those around us who are unaware of what is happening, due to the media's lack of good reporting. This is a good post you have - Thanks

[James D. Tippett]

At this point in time a PAC would be the only feasible realistic thing to do. Ingrained turf at the GOP would make it difficult and costly to impact. In NY we could not break the three men in the room, even with public outcry. You can not run for office until the Party approves you. Once they find out you are for change and dislodging career politicians, you would be done, unless you have lots of money. The change needs to come as a result of a cry from the people, the majority of the people. I like John McCain, but is that the best we could do? Barrack got elected because of his smile and eloquent, polished manner. The masses like the show. Hopefully those that were hypnotized will peak behind the curtain before it is too late. First we need to get them all to read the Constitution of the United States, including the politicians. Unfortunately, it is appearing to be viewed as just words on parchment paper, being replaced with greed and special interest. Not many Americans are even paying attention anymore. But even a PAC costs money. I love my country and I have ALWAYS been and continue to be, proud to be an American.