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Jerry,

It is very frustrating to read Senator Feinsteins reply to you about Obama's eligibility to serve as POTUS.

Since you did receive a reply, I assume you are a constituent and perhaps she will read any reply from you.

Senator Feinstein, like all others that have replied to constituents that quote the Fourteenth Amendment, are being deliberately misleading.

OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN - HE IS NOT EVEN A CITIZEN!

A popular response, and one that has been quoted by some Senators and Representatives in reply to questions from constituents relative to the eligibility of Barack Obama is that he was born in Hawaii (US soil) and on that basis Obama is a citizen and therefore eligible to be President.

This is widely believed and quoted by Obama supporters and the main stream media which has been used to divert the natural born status of Obama to his birth location, instead of the the legal status of Obama's citizenship "at birth".

The arguments by supporters revolves around the statement in Section 1 of Amendment XIV.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

Senator Feinstein and others want to interpret Section 1 as if it reads:

Section 1

a) Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the original constitution is repealed.

b) All persons born in the United States are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

c) All persons naturalized in the United States, having taken an oath of allegiance to the United States, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

d) All citizens of the United States are equal in all respects, including eligibility to be President of the United States.

e) Any person may run for President of the United States and if elected by majority vote becomes President of the United States and a citizen of the United States with all rights of citizenship.

And that is certainly the way it can be written by an amendment to the Constitution. But it is not so written and until the amendment is ratified, we must abide by the way it is written.

What do the words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," mean?

In Steel Co. v. Citizens for a Better Environment (1998) the court said “jurisdiction is a word of many, too many, meanings.” Therefore, it is important to discover the operational meaning behind “subject to the jurisdiction” as employed under the Fourteenth Amendment rather then assuming its meaning from other usages of the word jurisdiction alone. Both Sen. Trumbull and Sen. Howard provide the answer, with Trumbull declaring:

The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’

"Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."

In the year 1873 the United States Attorney General ruled the word “jurisdiction” under the Fourteenth Amendment to mean:
The word “jurisdiction” must be understood to mean absolute and complete jurisdiction, such as the United States had over its citizens before the adoption of this amendment… Aliens, among whom are persons born here and naturalized abroad, dwelling or being in this country, are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States only to a limited extent. Political and military rights and duties do not pertain to them. (14 Op. Atty-Gen. 300.)

By definitions of the requirement, "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" supplied by Senators Trumbull and Howard and by the ruling expressed of the meaning of the word "jurisdiction" by the United States Attorney General:

OBAMA IS NOT EVEN A CITIZEN!!!

The opinion rendered by Chief Justice John Marshal in the landmark case, Marbury v. Madison stated:

"It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and, therefore, such a construction is inadmissible ..."

Any attempt by Senator Feinstein to argue in court what she stated in her reply to you would be INADMISSABLE!

The words in the fourteenth amendment, "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" , have meaning and may not be ignored in the construction of any argument relative to Obama's eligibility. Amendment 14 does not contain the words "natural" or "natural born" and cannot be used to override Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the Constitution.

Jerry, sorry I hadn't gotten around to calling you. Maybe we can talk tomorrow if you still have time. Hey, do you have any interest in becoming the State Coordinator for CA? Let me know.

Consider it done brother!

done

Jerry,

Thanks for the prompt reply brother!

Jerry,
Thanks so very much for the info brother! That IS something we can counter.....promise you that! I'm going to copy and paste that link on Grassfire too!

Jerry,
Welcome aboard!

Wow, you said a mouthful. I have to condense it quite a bit, but I get the gist of it. I'll approve your group and add a chat feature. Let me know if I can help with anything else. Once your group is started. I would suggest posting a discussion with to outline your Conservative Nation principles. They are indeed, the principles that most people on this network agree with. Good luck with your new group!

Jerry, could you please provide a brief discription for the group you would like to start and then I can approve it for you. Thanks.