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It is my considered opinion that this is the watershed instance that will culminate in eventual total confiscation. Look at the other so called Free Nations that used to have free access to guns. Look long and hard at the gradual progression from registration to confiscation. It all follows a prescribed program, and we are in the middle of it in america simply because the Elites want to have total control over us, and give us nothing to oppose their dictates with.
Please contact;
at; http://governor.hawaii.gov/contact-us/
and politely but firmly state your opposition to this act that will eventually make the Constitution meaningless.
At least the criminals will leave us gun owners alone. Just because a person is a criminal, does not mean they are stupid..I am fine with a state making their own laws about guns.If they want to be stupid about things. That is fine providing it does not effect me and my community...I would hope they do not allow it,but I have enough on my plate here were I live. Shrinking the federal government is what I want to see . I will not get involved in other States affairs other than supporting a candidate.
Kevin,
This is a test case that will affect all of us in every State of the union. It's just like when they used California as the test case for all the environment agendas in the 60's and 70's.
M, Hopefully , we are about to turn the corner on all this madness.But at any rate, What I said about the criminals directing their crime at those without guns to defend themselves will show this was a bad idea. To give criminals a log book of gun owners is insane....Plus do you really think gun owners will comply. The guy who has a 30-30 in his closet will not comply at all. The guy who does not hunt, but just has a riffle for protection ,will not comply.
Again Kevin,
It's not the criminals I worry about. It's the over reach and dictatorial proclivity of the Federal Government. this gun control has been going on since the early 1920's and is getting worse every year. The public thinks the Elitists will not get their way and we will keep our guns, even though at this point our guns are just the symbols of our freedoms.Overnight once the agenda to disarm American civilians has reached the tipping point, the powers that be will confiscate and impose drastic penalties on those who refuse to comply.
For further clarification see my post;
http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/forum/topics/our-guns-the-symbols-and-1
M, If you think we will roll over without an all out war, your crazy. Do you understand how many people have joined militias. Gun sales are through the roof. Community`s are getting together . Have you been aware of how many people are adjusting their life styles to accommodate what may be coming. People are gardening, building chicken huts. Goats, beef cows...You name it. Smart people will be ready. Once Trump gets in, things will turn around. But there will be a movement of young anarchists who will need to be dealt with. Go talk to any cop. They can not wait to be able to do their job. The anarchy that the left has enabled will end. Providing the silent majority stays engaged , It will be fine for many voting cycles. As soon as the establishment thinking Progressives raise their heads again, They need to be dealt with. No more crony capitalism.
The key is Trump must win. If Hillary wins. The militias will move on any injustice done to the Constitution. Hillary and the left are in for a surprise if they think they can maintain the crimes they have done.
Kevin,
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You do not get it. The militia is made up of many police officers now. Along with military...Who do you think will shoot fellow Americans. Certainly not police that understand and actually are on the same side of issues. Their paycheck at that point becomes a no factor. When the mass movement starts. You will be surprised how many will chose the right side according to their hearts.It will be a fight between the Soros anarchists and good militia members.The police will side with the militia ...That is simple logic....When the Soros group has another occupy movement, The militias will go occupy the same space and take over and stop it. The police will be told to stand down by Hillary`s administration. But the militias will not take her orders....Now do you think the cops will come in and go against the militia who are doing the job they know in their hearts they want to do... You have some notion that it will go down unorganized. You think the militia are all a bunch of yahoos... Research will show you that I am right. You have retired generals counseling many militia leaders .Why do you think Stewart rhodes was upset that the Bundy gang moved when they did. The Budy gang ran on heart and a strong faith. LaVoy`s death does serve a purpose. It was a message to many. A wake up call. The Militia / Liberty movement is making big gains in the information battle. The shear numbers of patriots engaging is scaring the opposition . And I must add ,that Trump is fueling the liberty movement . He is teaching us to not cower to PC. He is giving us confidence.
No Kevin,
It's you who fails to see what the outcome would be.
1. Obama removed the majority of "good" military officers that refused to fire on Americans and replaced them with ones who wouild.
2. the Ready Reserve that Obama has been building since his first days in office, the ones he wanted to be armed as good or better than the Military, and we can not get accurate reports on is another fasctor.
3. The questionable officers that pledged their alligence to Obama instead of the Constitution are the ones in control of all the UCAV weapons platforms.
4. I can't speak about the Classified weapons systems other than to say they make the UCAV's look like childs toys by comparison.
5. You are also selling short Military Command and Control for situations and the little known UN treaty that would allow Foreigh troops under UN command to invade our Country at Obama's or for that matter any sitting President's request to put down insurrections.
6. How would small arms be used to fight the Air Force and UCAV's flying above the effective range of the small arms?
7. Do you know how a Marine Force Recon or Seal team does what it does? I do. Think of how many of those teams could be activated to put down an armed insurrection. Civilians and even Police or National Guard could not stand against fully supplied, integrated and coordinated teams for very long.
It's nice to think we could do that, and we really could have up until the FDR Administration that started restricting what Civilians could own as far as armament is concerned. Until 1933 any American citizen could buy any Military item provided they had the money to do so. We can't do that now.
That leaves us with trying to use the non violent means first and foremost for change. It needs to be seriously tried first before going off half cocked
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