Concerning the Florida Shooting, We Are At A Crossroads.

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Reprinted with permission of the author; The Tradesman

Concerning the Florida school shooting: Gun law changes attract renewed GOP interest http://fxn.ws/2oeMKun  #FoxNews Just strengthening existing laws and regulations will not result in more safety. We need to find out the root causes driving these killers.

 

When they strengthen the background check system there also needs to be a fixed set of rules open to public debate on what is and what is not acceptable to the public at large about impacting constitutional rights, and agreed on by all parties. This set of rules must realistically address root causes.It must also be fixed as if in stone, so future politicians can't change anything to suit their agendas.

 

To put it plainly; If they fix the background check system there must be an agreed on hard set of rules as to what can and can't be done in the name of safety.Too often reasonable rules are bastardized by politicians who practice overreach as a matter of course.interpreting the new rules must be clearly spelled out and agreed on by the public.

 

One other important observation; While it sounds good on the surface, it begs the question, "Who decides?"   Obviously, the government would seize that mantle and, like ALL government programs, would soon overreach, disarming anyone and everyone it could, for our own good, of course.This must be prevented at it's inception so politicians would be unable to change it at a whim.

 

The root causes must be studied within a reasonable time frame to begin with and be able to continue as new information is accrued,then the public must decide how much Safety is really derived and how much suppression of rights will be created. A reasonable balance needs to be determined. These decisions must not be driven by Political Agendas for any reason.

 

ALL factions need an equal seat at the negotiation table. The same caveat needs to be held for all the collected data in finding out the root causes that drive the killers as well as what could stop them. At this point, we do not actually know what those root causes might be. We do not know what will necessarily work. We do however know what has not worked so far, so it will be necessary for all sides to relax their hard held beliefs until facts are forthcoming from the study.

 

Gun Control is the progressives deadly lie. look how it has done nothing to stop the killings.Outlawing certain guns did nothing to stop the killings either.Gun Free Zones have only served to make soft targets to the shooters. Lets demand real protections for our kids and our selves. Repeating Progressive folly did not work, and will not work. The very Definition of insanity is repeating the same things like the progressives do with Gun Control/Gun Free Zones, and expecting a different outcome. Lets find out the real problems for once and correct them to save our kids lives..

 

Based on findings from all the shooters backgrounds, things like medical histories,upbringing,school records,friends, environment,habitual behaviors, and the many more things found to be commonalities across the range of shooters. Those things will have to be studied in depth.

 

Seriously though, we need to reevaluate what we have been doing, and see it in the light of reality to determine how effective it really is in the real world as opposed to the Fantasy World inhabited by the Progressive/Liberal/Socialist Gun Grabbers.I truthfully believe they don't give one Whit about it's effectiveness, as long as it conforms to their Agendas..

 

From that study we need to formulate plans to eliminate the triggering conditions and find ways to ameliorate damage already done to potential shooters. This also must not be corrupted by political agendas or wishful thinking.The compromises must be reasonable not dictatorial.

 

Everything we are doing now must of necessity be reevaluated for it's effectiveness and impact on the issue of serial shootings and serial shooters. We may or may not find things we are doing contribute to the killings.We may find that Not training our kids about guns is a factor. There are probably many more factors to be considered.

 

We must learn to act on the factors the study finds out about the root causes, and act on them while rejecting political and personal desires as wishful thinking that will only serve to harm more innocent people. As it sits, neither side is right at this point. Neither side actually knows what is happening, but are ready to create fixes based on their personal preferences and agendas.

 

We have a real mess here that poses a danger to all innocent people unless it's addressed properly. I believe that most of the problem stems from political expedience to pander to public fears for reelection purposes rather, than systematically correcting the killings problem.

 

I agree we do need change. Change that will not be political desideratum, but in fact, will positively impact the clear and present danger from serial shooters, preying on the innocent public. Politicians will take the easy road unless we force them to take the right road on this.

 

What Trump and/or Congress needs to do is to commission an unbiased study on all the factors common to all the serial shooters and see which ones contributed to their becoming serial killers. Once we really know what the causes are we can work to eliminate them and save lives. Bring in both sides Pro gun and Con gun, to oversee the integrity of the study, but not contribute to the end results.

 

I suggest that the Congress get it together and create real laws that actually have a chance of saving lives instead of pandering to highly vocal agendas on both sides of the issue. Until then, we must harden the targets as much as is possible and train & arm the staffs.

 

The Tradesman

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jim Lakes  wrote:

Let's not skirt around the issues and FACTS! Oren is right about all the issues he listed, HOWEVER: .

1)     The school had an armed guard.

2)     There was plenty evidence that this guy was a threat to himself, the school and other people. (36 calls made to them about his threats and behavior. Reports from  other students and other people.

3)      There were three (3) other officers at the scene at the time of the shooting. Four (4) total.

4)      How did he even get in the school in the first place when he was suspended, with a guard there?

5)      Why was there a policy by the head of the Board of Education "NOT to arrest any students??"

6)      Why would four (4) deputy sheriff's stand outside the school, knowing that there was shooting going on inside the building and NOT GO IN???

7)      Why would police officers who arrived after the shooting stopped, be the only ones going inside when they "Quoted" they were puzzled why those four (4) sheriff's deputies were hiding behind their cars.

8)      Why did it happen at a school where the Sheriff had jurisdiction who happened to be a leftist supporter of everyone who was a hard nose demorat socialist??

9)      Why was it that the shooter just happened to chose an AR-15 as the shooting weapon?      

10)    Why were none of the threats investigated by the Sheriff who was the chief law enforcement officer of the county???

11)    How did the school resource officer, (deputy sheriff) know a description of the shooter and told other officers who it was?

12)    How did he know it was the shooter unless he actually seen him shooting?

Think what you will, call me a nut case, a conspiracy nut or what ever you want. I have been to Pakistan, Lebanon, Lybia, S. Arabia, Egypt, Kuwait and a few more. I know what I know and here are some FACTS that you don't hear much about.

a)    One of the officers who was there and did not go into the building is the head of CAIR (Council for American Islamic Relations) in Southern Floridia.

b)    He has given training to muslims at masques in the area on shootings.

c)    All four (4) deputies refused to go into the building while the shooting was taking place.

WHY? Because they didn't want to save the children or kill the shooter! They were a part of the "PLAN" to let this happen!

What is the thing that scares leftist socialists the most about the American people and how do they remove that fear??? SIMPLE! Take ALL their GUNS! And what would be the best way to accomplish that threat to their agenda? Talk the PEOPLE into giving up their semi-automatic rifles and especially their AR-15's and they know they cannot accomplish that goal unless there is something so serious that the people would say, OK, we don't need that weapon, like (17) dead kids. Then, what's next, semi-automatic hand guns until they are all gone.

Now, what does that have to do with muslims? Simple again, they can't do it on their own so they talked their "buddy" the sheriff, to hire muslims on his force, knowing they would not stop a killing field like this when and if it ever happened. And, who is capable of putting a plan like this together? None other than the hilldabeast and her minions.

She is so pissed that she lost the election, she will do ANYTHING to get back into control. A pure POWER FREAK that would plan an attack like this to help her get there.

Call me what you want, but think about what I have just said!!!

Jim

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Even though the manipulated kids like Hogg are spouting the rhetoric and narratives of their gun grabber handlers, they still refuse to see the necessity of training teachers to carry concealed in schools. Maybe they have been lied to by those Puppet Master Handlers about how teachers would be trained. This is a video on how they should be trained;