Questions from a member of the Peanut Gallery(tm)

[Rhodes]

A peanut gallery was, in the days of vaudeville, a nickname for the cheapest (and ostensibly rowdiest) seats in the theater, the occupants of which were often known to heckle. The least expensive snack served at the theater would often be peanuts, which the patrons would sometimes throw at the performers on stage to show their disapproval.

Answer if you wish ignore if you like and expect incoming peanut shells thrown very accurately for BS.

So without further delay;

Trump

Is some form of BFYTW still his leading selling point?

Frankly he is not that impressive, face it only a seriously devoted moron couldn't see the simple solutions that he offered on immigration/invasion (depending on ones view) are absolutely required if this land is retain any legitimacy. So he is not stupid... Trump he aint stupid... hmmm. Outside of that he isnt actively attempting to subvert the land, yeah the bar is set pretty damn low nowadays. 

Cruz

Exactly in what view is this man even considered qualified according to the text of the Constitution?

If a person is take an oath to protect and defend the document then they MUST be qualified by same. I can read and I know the term "natural born" was not defined expressly (such was the halfarsedness of the framers in such cases) but apparently THEY KNEW, so the writing of era is key and not one gives any credence to Cruz. In your own words please.

The rest of the gang dont matter any longer.

General:

Is the federal government in any way still a legitimate authority given it obviously operates FAR outside its legitimacy establishing document?

You get to think on that one with no prompting from me.

Think on this one a bit, knee jerks are easily spotted. 

Does the Tea Party, as it was founded by mass participation, even exist any longer?

Add your own questions if you like there are far more but my time is at an end for now.

[Dmitri Veans]

Cruz can be president just like Obama or McCain 

In 2000 then again in 2009 CRS report and subsequent review in 2011 all confirmed a child born outside the USA to citizens of the USA are natural born and can run for president. These reviews where conducted based on McCain's desire to run for president because he was born outside the USA. others where undertaken based on Obama's background and in each case it was agreed they were eligible to run based on the legal status of the parents.

 

To suggest Cruz is not eligible is to suggest only laws tested in the supreme court have merit and that would suggest over 90% of the laws of the land are false because they have not passed constitutional muster. 

[Rhodes]

McCain was born of citizen parents under jurisdiction and in the service of the US, that one is and always was just infantile.

Remember one cannot and indeed MUST NOT assign modern definition to terms of the Framers period, what they have written is the end of the matter. Why we must not is clearly found in the second amendment debate, people of the time clearly understood the wording and wrote of it. That is why the matter of the seocnd is so clear to clear thinking people. 

A person born of citizen parents under US jurisdiction is an unquestionable natural born citizen. One born under US jurisdiction by one citizen parent is justifiably natural born. One born of citizen parents in the jurisdiction of a foreign power is debatable to be natural born, it has a good case.

I can find nothing written by the Framers to justify an argument that born of one citizen in a foreign jurisdiction is natural born. That is the entire reason the exception is present to "grandfather in" citizens at the time of ratification. 

"This stuff aint that hard... dont make it so."     Jefferson's ghost

As to other laws see my next to last question in the OP.

[BLADES]

so your saying that if my children were born while I was in canada they would not be natural born and able to be POTUS...dont know but that cant be right...

still gonna go with the experts on this but thanks for your time

[Rhodes]

Not enough information given to say but it must be cautioned never to bend laws to suite one's own very personal interests. Bend it too far and it all breaks, then your children have nothing to be President of...

[BLADES]

so you are saying that a child born outside of country by americans are not natural born and can not be POTUS????

[Rhodes]

Im not saying it Im just reporting what written at the time and prove intent.

Under US jurisdiction on a base or under orders, no of course they are nb.

Born outside of it, there is an good case for it and it did come up but nothing definitive.

If said child lived it's entire life under foreign jurisdiction are you saying he could just come over and win office?

See not clear cut is it.

Ted Cruz's situation isnt even on the chart. That makes me sad for a lot of reasons.

[BLADES]

I think your adding words into it that are not there....why would you do that????

''Under US jurisdiction on a base or under orders,'' did you add these  ..''on a base or under orders''... cause I dont see them anywhere ....and what exactly is cruz's situation because the example you gave is not the same as his..

I'm gonna go with your wrong on your assessment based on the case you make 

[Rhodes]

Then where exactly does the line draw B?

Why did the framers even use the term natural born citizen? Ever wonder? No of course you dont.

For those who do please at least read the following as sort of good cliffs notes to the matter:

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/01/what-our-framers-knew-the-constit...

Words mean things.

[kevin kiernan]

Was Ted`s father a citizen when Ted was born, Or just his mom, And does that make a difference.

[Dmitri Veans]

Incidentally, this isn’t the first time the qualifications of a candidate have come into question. George Romney, the father of Mitt Romney who ran for president as a Republican in 1968, was born in Mexico. Barry Goldwater, the 1964 GOP presidential nominee, was born in Arizona before it was a state. Neither candidate’s campaign was derailed by citizenship challenges.

[Rhodes]

No he was not a citizen.

[BLADES]

Rhodes you never say why and how he is not eligible just that hes not...could you state your case a little...the burden is on you to prove your case