REPUBLICAN LEADERS ...RNC AND FOX NEWS ARE PLANNING A BROKERED OR CONTESTED CONVENTION ELECTION 2016NEWS AND UPDATES...etc etc

[DE]

The RNC is preparing a brokered convention...to not allow Marco Rubio to win...They will bring in an establishment candidate to give it to that candidate...What can be done  about that..We know it will be Jeb or Rubio..They can do this  because of the ways that they have structured the riles...this is incredible.. the pick at a brokered convention never wins..they said FDR was the last to ever win a brokered convention.What they are really doing is saying they had rather elect Hillary than have Trump win............I AM TOO DISGUSTED FOR WORDS

UPDATE:

Cleveland Cliffhanger? Prospects of a Deadlocked GOP Convention

By J. Robert Smith

The big winner in Iowa’s Republican caucuses on Monday night might not have been Ted Cruz.  It may have been a nominating process that fails to yield a clear winner.  A clear winner being a candidate who goes to Cleveland this summer with the presidential nomination in hand.    

At the end of Monday night, which count really mattered?  Delegates acquired.  As of this writing, Cruz has bagged eight delegates, Trump and Rubio, seven each, with four other delegates going to also-rans. 

Raw vote totals are what most folk tend to watch and weigh.  But in 2016, it pays to more closely follow the candidates’ delegate totals.  Thanks to the Republican National Committee (RNC), caucuses and primaries held prior to mid-March mandate proportional distribution of delegates based on candidates’ vote totals in given contests.  Most early caucuses and primaries impose threshold minimums to win delegates (say, Alabama, with a 20% threshold). 

Prior to Mid-March, 25 States, along with DC, Guam, and Puerto Rico, will hold proportional contests.  That accounts for 1,022 bound delegates (“bound” being delegates committed to a candidate for the first vote).  45% of the bound delegates will be picked proportionally or in “hybrid” formats, which include triggering provisions for larger delegate yields for candidates who meet higher vote percentage thresholds.  There are WTA (winner-take-all) thresholds, but those will be quite difficult to achieve.          

Starting with Super Tuesday, March 15, most of the remaining states have opted to hold winner-take-all contests, though a handful will continue to make proportional distributions.  From mid-March forward, 1,238 bound delegates will be chosen (Colorado’s delegates declare at convention). 

The number of delegates needed to secure the GOP nomination is 1,237.  There are a number of unbound (3 per state) and unpledged delegates.  The unpledged delegates are mostly establishment picks who would factor in at a deadlocked convention.  

Short of a breakout by one the major contenders (Trump, Cruz, and Rubio), it’s not hard to imagine a scenario where the proportional phase of the nominating process yields tightly packed delegate counts among the three.  Complicating matters is if new life is breathed into the Carson, Kasich, or Christe campaigns (as improbable as that appears).

But, say you, won’t the nomination fight be resolved with Super Tuesday and the subsequent contests? 

That could happen, but consider this prospect.  Cruz, Rubio, and Trump take roughly a third each of the delegates in the proportional phase.  For illustration, say, 340 delegates per man.  That means in the winner-take-all phase, one of the principals would need to capture 897 of the available 1,238 bound delegates to win.  That’s about 73% of the total or three out of every four delegates. Possible, but how likely?  This assumes, too, that the principals are competitive with one another, affording each the chance to pick off states.

Cruz, Trump, and Rubio have the resources to stay the course.  Trump is self-funding.  Cruz’s fundraising operation is already solid and benefits all the more from his Iowa win.  Rubio’s stronger than anticipated finish in Iowa boosts his fundraising.  And as Rubio consolidates establishment voters -- as he began doing in Iowa -- and lesser establishment candidates drop out, expect a significant upswing in his campaign’s financial fortunes.  

Writes Michael Snyder at “Before It’s News”: 

[I]f no candidate is able to secure enough delegates, that means that we would end up with a “brokered convention”. The mechanics of a brokered convention can get quite complicated, but on a practical level what that would essentially mean is that the party establishment would get to hand select the nominee. And in case you are wondering, that would not be Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. 

                               

Snyder’s assessment is flawed in a couple of respects (though not his conclusion about the candidates). 

“Deadlocked” versus a “brokered” convention, the more accurate designation is “deadlocked.”  A brokered convention suggests that party bosses call the shots nearly exclusively.  The party boss era in American politics is long past.

Though unpledged delegates -- who are likely establishment recruits -- will play a critical role at a deadlocked convention, it’s important to remember that bound delegates are only committed to their candidates on the first ballot. 

Thereafter, they’re unbound.  Candidates’ and, perhaps, dark horses’ (yes, a draft is possible) primary focus for vote gathering will be among all those plentiful unbound state delegates.  If the convention deadlocks, it’s going to be the Wild West, with plenty of wheeling and dealing, barroom brawls, shoot-outs, shenanigans, and backroom deals.  But all that will occur across delegations and not just among the establishment few.

Snyder’s guess that the nominee won’t be named “Cruz” or “Trump” should a deadlock occur is reasonable.  Deadlocked conventions -- if past brokered conventions are any guide -- tend to nominee candidates who at least appear more centrist or moderate.  At a deadlocked 2016 Cleveland affair, the buzz word may be “electable.”  Right now, Marco Rubio seems to fit the bill.  As Snyder pointed out in his article, that’s not an endorsement; it’s merely an observation.

If the Republican field narrows to two principal candidates, then the chances for a deadlocked convention melt away.  But if, as anticipated, Cruz, Trump, and Rubio (and possibly one or two others) remain in the race, then a deadlocked convention moves from “maybe” to “probable” with each passing primary, caucus, and state convention.  The Republican presidential nominee who emerges will have done so after the fight of his political life – and ours.  

The big winner in Iowa’s Republican caucuses on Monday night might not have been Ted Cruz.  It may have been a nominating process that fails to yield a clear winner.  A clear winner being a candidate who goes to Cleveland this summer with the presidential nomination in hand.    

At the end of Monday night, which count really mattered?  Delegates acquired.  As of this writing, Cruz has bagged eight delegates, Trump and Rubio, seven each, with four other delegates going to also-rans. 

Raw vote totals are what most folk tend to watch and weigh.  But in 2016, it pays to more closely follow the candidates’ delegate totals.  Thanks to the Republican National Committee (RNC), caucuses and primaries held prior to mid-March mandate proportional distribution of delegates based on candidates’ vote totals in given contests.  Most early caucuses and primaries impose threshold minimums to win delegates (say, Alabama, with a 20% threshold). 

Prior to Mid-March, 25 States, along with DC, Guam, and Puerto Rico, will hold proportional contests.  That accounts for 1,022 bound delegates (“bound” being delegates committed to a candidate for the first vote).  45% of the bound delegates will be picked proportionally or in “hybrid” formats, which include triggering provisions for larger delegate yields for candidates who meet higher vote percentage thresholds.  There are WTA (winner-take-all) thresholds, but those will be quite difficult to achieve.          

Starting with Super Tuesday, March 15, most of the remaining states have opted to hold winner-take-all contests, though a handful will continue to make proportional distributions.  From mid-March forward, 1,238 bound delegates will be chosen (Colorado’s delegates declare at convention). 

The number of delegates needed to secure the GOP nomination is 1,237.  There are a number of unbound (3 per state) and unpledged delegates.  The unpledged delegates are mostly establishment picks who would factor in at a deadlocked convention.  

Short of a breakout by one the major contenders (Trump, Cruz, and Rubio), it’s not hard to imagine a scenario where the proportional phase of the nominating process yields tightly packed delegate counts among the three.  Complicating matters is if new life is breathed into the Carson, Kasich, or Christe campaigns (as improbable as that appears).

But, say you, won’t the nomination fight be resolved with Super Tuesday and the subsequent contests? 

That could happen, but consider this prospect.  Cruz, Rubio, and Trump take roughly a third each of the delegates in the proportional phase.  For illustration, say, 340 delegates per man.  That means in the winner-take-all phase, one of the principals would need to capture 897 of the available 1,238 bound delegates to win.  That’s about 73% of the total or three out of every four delegates. Possible, but how likely?  This assumes, too, that the principals are competitive with one another, affording each the chance to pick off states.

Cruz, Trump, and Rubio have the resources to stay the course.  Trump is self-funding.  Cruz’s fundraising operation is already solid and benefits all the more from his Iowa win.  Rubio’s stronger than anticipated finish in Iowa boosts his fundraising.  And as Rubio consolidates establishment voters -- as he began doing in Iowa -- and lesser establishment candidates drop out, expect a significant upswing in his campaign’s financial fortunes.  

Writes Michael Snyder at “Before It’s News”: 

[I]f no candidate is able to secure enough delegates, that means that we would end up with a “brokered convention”. The mechanics of a brokered convention can get quite complicated, but on a practical level what that would essentially mean is that the party establishment would get to hand select the nominee. And in case you are wondering, that would not be Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. 

                               

Snyder’s assessment is flawed in a couple of respects (though not his conclusion about the candidates). 

“Deadlocked” versus a “brokered” convention, the more accurate designation is “deadlocked.”  A brokered convention suggests that party bosses call the shots nearly exclusively.  The party boss era in American politics is long past.

Though unpledged delegates -- who are likely establishment recruits -- will play a critical role at a deadlocked convention, it’s important to remember that bound delegates are only committed to their candidates on the first ballot. 

Thereafter, they’re unbound.  Candidates’ and, perhaps, dark horses’ (yes, a draft is possible) primary focus for vote gathering will be among all those plentiful unbound state delegates.  If the convention deadlocks, it’s going to be the Wild West, with plenty of wheeling and dealing, barroom brawls, shoot-outs, shenanigans, and backroom deals.  But all that will occur across delegations and not just among the establishment few.

Snyder’s guess that the nominee won’t be named “Cruz” or “Trump” should a deadlock occur is reasonable.  Deadlocked conventions -- if past brokered conventions are any guide -- tend to nominee candidates who at least appear more centrist or moderate.  At a deadlocked 2016 Cleveland affair, the buzz word may be “electable.”  Right now, Marco Rubio seems to fit the bill.  As Snyder pointed out in his article, that’s not an endorsement; it’s merely an observation.

If the Republican field narrows to two principal candidates, then the chances for a deadlocked convention melt away.  But if, as anticipated, Cruz, Trump, and Rubio (and possibly one or two others) remain in the race, then a deadlocked convention moves from “maybe” to “probable” with each passing primary, caucus, and state convention.  The Republican presidential nominee who emerges will have done so after the fight of his political life – and ours.  

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/cleveland_cliffhang...
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[Dmitri Veans]

Tray Gowdy has one of the top voting records for conservative values in the house, he may be soft on immigration but hes not a moderate. Rubio  has a B 84% score in his voting it is strange to see him painted as a moderate just because of his immigration stand. I don't want him because of it but he is and was a tea party candidate elected from Florida.What I love is the fact that the electorate has moved so far right that he is starting to look like a centrist.

Lets go after the D's and F's not the c's and b's because the media wants us to eat our own. 

[DE]

DV..I do not agree...I am hard line right wing..LOL..I will try to honor what you have asked me as I have the utmost respect for you and all here know that...Thankk you my friend...:)

[Dmitri Veans]

I am a hard core conservative also, so no worries there. I just try to stay realistic about what we can achieve. If we focus money on C's and B's and left F's and D's stay in office because we got spread to thin we blow the opportunity

Besides if F's and D's get kicked out the C' will turn to B's based on public pressure and the B's will turn to A's. . 

[DE]

Got it.........All about strategy..........:)

[jack ludwig]

that is a smart strategy DV.....but you must be very selective which D's and F's you target....in those districts you're likely to end up with a B or C liberal democrat replacing the D or F republican. When that occurs we have lost ground.

[Dmitri Veans]

Well Jack if you look at the tea parties around the country they are going after only red district RINO's and not supporting appoints in blue districts. That is what I call smart and I give money to candidates only in those red districts. 

This election cycle we see 5 good tea party challenges to siting senators but they are in red states and we have a good chance to win them. If we do the media will say that they are pickup opportunities for Dems but that just left wing BS. 

Remember in Cruz's speech he said in order to break the Washington cartel we need to make the price to great to ignore. This time we have a great shot at doing just that because the Carl Rove PAC's are broke,in the last election cycle they had over 300 mill to attack conservatives and elect RINO's. 

God bless the USA and its voters.

[jack ludwig]

That won't matter DV, in a presidential election year with much more voters showing up it is very difficult to win a congressional seat without winning the WH. We learned that lesson in 2008 and again in 2012. 

All the republican Super PAC's are taking a beating this election cycle. It stands to reason this would happen after getting shellacked two presidential election cycles in a row. The national republican party needs to regroup before it can generate any power again.

[Dmitri Veans]

In the last 2 election minorities voted in larger then normal numbers and in the highest percent to democrats in history. With Obama gone and Trump taking near half of that vote Democrats are going to be very depressed come election day. 

As to your comments about PAC's its Carl Roves PACs taking a beating, he had 300 mill last election cycle to elect Ryno's this time hes broke. Even the wealthy did not like who he supported. This time RINO and DNC PACs are broke. LOL 

[kevin kiernan]

DV. I like Trey. He has fought a good conservative fight for the most part. His endorsement of Rubio just does not sit well with most here.Trey does not see the big picture maybe. I am sure that many politicians fail to see everything that is going on. They tend to get buried in individual agendas and can not know enough of other situations.He is a DA by trade. And good at it.

[Dmitri Veans]

If you ignore immigration Tray is an A+ and everyone in Washington supports immigration reform or at least they did before Trump arrived. I think come 2018 after Trumps been in office for a few years they will be tripping over there self's trying to out conservative each other.LOL

[kevin kiernan]

Remind me to never say your not optimistic .DV.  Have I ever said that I like the way you think sometimes !..Imagine that ...Washington full of conservatives ,pushing conservative values and principles...I am sure God would be smiling on us.

[Dmitri Veans]

Kevin this is the first election since Reagan I have been so optimistic, you see when the silent majority is awakened big things happen. It took place with Nixon as well and each time in American history it happened the resulting change was massive. Each time unique but the longer term effects where the same "a more then subtitle move to the right"  In the case of Reagan the move ended with the election of Bush but in this case we will have Cruz to carry the mantel after Trump is gone.

 

The media wont admit it but blacks are starting in large number to move away from democrats, in this area they all say democrats will not support you unless you are LGBT or Muslim and as a result near half that I speak to are supporting Trump and much to my surprise many have changed registration to republican.

 

Blacks in my area vote 90 to 95 percent democrat and the district is very light blue with that shift alone we may just end off very light red. The democrats in pandering to the 1% Muslim vote have pissed off 13% and a loyal voting block. In the 1960's blacks made a smaller move away from the republican party because of one republican running for office and he did not even make it to the general election.

 

With history in mind this could be a steady sea change in the voting habits of minorities, and at the moment the more the media tells blacks they don't support trump the larger the numbers grow. Here they don't want welfare they want jobs and respect and I for one welcome all of them to the party.

 

Look at the GOP field and then look at the DNC field, which one looks more like America. From what I can tell in this blue county its not going unnoticed.