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REPUBLICAN LEADERS ...RNC AND FOX NEWS ARE PLANNING A BROKERED OR CONTESTED CONVENTION ELECTION 2016NEWS AND UPDATES...etc etc

The RNC is preparing a brokered convention...to not allow Marco Rubio to win...They will bring in an establishment candidate to give it to that candidate...What can be done  about that..We know it will be Jeb or Rubio..They can do this  because of the ways that they have structured the riles...this is incredible.. the pick at a brokered convention never wins..they said FDR was the last to ever win a brokered convention.What they are really doing is saying they had rather elect Hillary than have Trump win............I AM TOO DISGUSTED FOR WORDS

UPDATE:

Cleveland Cliffhanger? Prospects of a Deadlocked GOP Convention

The big winner in Iowa’s Republican caucuses on Monday night might not have been Ted Cruz.  It may have been a nominating process that fails to yield a clear winner.  A clear winner being a candidate who goes to Cleveland this summer with the presidential nomination in hand.    

At the end of Monday night, which count really mattered?  Delegates acquired.  As of this writing, Cruz has bagged eight delegates, Trump and Rubio, seven each, with four other delegates going to also-rans. 

Raw vote totals are what most folk tend to watch and weigh.  But in 2016, it pays to more closely follow the candidates’ delegate totals.  Thanks to the Republican National Committee (RNC), caucuses and primaries held prior to mid-March mandate proportional distribution of delegates based on candidates’ vote totals in given contests.  Most early caucuses and primaries impose threshold minimums to win delegates (say, Alabama, with a 20% threshold). 

Prior to Mid-March, 25 States, along with DC, Guam, and Puerto Rico, will hold proportional contests.  That accounts for 1,022 bound delegates (“bound” being delegates committed to a candidate for the first vote).  45% of the bound delegates will be picked proportionally or in “hybrid” formats, which include triggering provisions for larger delegate yields for candidates who meet higher vote percentage thresholds.  There are WTA (winner-take-all) thresholds, but those will be quite difficult to achieve.          

Starting with Super Tuesday, March 15, most of the remaining states have opted to hold winner-take-all contests, though a handful will continue to make proportional distributions.  From mid-March forward, 1,238 bound delegates will be chosen (Colorado’s delegates declare at convention). 

The number of delegates needed to secure the GOP nomination is 1,237.  There are a number of unbound (3 per state) and unpledged delegates.  The unpledged delegates are mostly establishment picks who would factor in at a deadlocked convention.  

Short of a breakout by one the major contenders (Trump, Cruz, and Rubio), it’s not hard to imagine a scenario where the proportional phase of the nominating process yields tightly packed delegate counts among the three.  Complicating matters is if new life is breathed into the Carson, Kasich, or Christe campaigns (as improbable as that appears).

But, say you, won’t the nomination fight be resolved with Super Tuesday and the subsequent contests? 

That could happen, but consider this prospect.  Cruz, Rubio, and Trump take roughly a third each of the delegates in the proportional phase.  For illustration, say, 340 delegates per man.  That means in the winner-take-all phase, one of the principals would need to capture 897 of the available 1,238 bound delegates to win.  That’s about 73% of the total or three out of every four delegates. Possible, but how likely?  This assumes, too, that the principals are competitive with one another, affording each the chance to pick off states.

Cruz, Trump, and Rubio have the resources to stay the course.  Trump is self-funding.  Cruz’s fundraising operation is already solid and benefits all the more from his Iowa win.  Rubio’s stronger than anticipated finish in Iowa boosts his fundraising.  And as Rubio consolidates establishment voters -- as he began doing in Iowa -- and lesser establishment candidates drop out, expect a significant upswing in his campaign’s financial fortunes.  

Writes Michael Snyder at “Before It’s News”: 

[I]f no candidate is able to secure enough delegates, that means that we would end up with a “brokered convention”. The mechanics of a brokered convention can get quite complicated, but on a practical level what that would essentially mean is that the party establishment would get to hand select the nominee. And in case you are wondering, that would not be Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. 

                               

Snyder’s assessment is flawed in a couple of respects (though not his conclusion about the candidates). 

“Deadlocked” versus a “brokered” convention, the more accurate designation is “deadlocked.”  A brokered convention suggests that party bosses call the shots nearly exclusively.  The party boss era in American politics is long past.

Though unpledged delegates -- who are likely establishment recruits -- will play a critical role at a deadlocked convention, it’s important to remember that bound delegates are only committed to their candidates on the first ballot. 

Thereafter, they’re unbound.  Candidates’ and, perhaps, dark horses’ (yes, a draft is possible) primary focus for vote gathering will be among all those plentiful unbound state delegates.  If the convention deadlocks, it’s going to be the Wild West, with plenty of wheeling and dealing, barroom brawls, shoot-outs, shenanigans, and backroom deals.  But all that will occur across delegations and not just among the establishment few.

Snyder’s guess that the nominee won’t be named “Cruz” or “Trump” should a deadlock occur is reasonable.  Deadlocked conventions -- if past brokered conventions are any guide -- tend to nominee candidates who at least appear more centrist or moderate.  At a deadlocked 2016 Cleveland affair, the buzz word may be “electable.”  Right now, Marco Rubio seems to fit the bill.  As Snyder pointed out in his article, that’s not an endorsement; it’s merely an observation.

If the Republican field narrows to two principal candidates, then the chances for a deadlocked convention melt away.  But if, as anticipated, Cruz, Trump, and Rubio (and possibly one or two others) remain in the race, then a deadlocked convention moves from “maybe” to “probable” with each passing primary, caucus, and state convention.  The Republican presidential nominee who emerges will have done so after the fight of his political life – and ours.  

The big winner in Iowa’s Republican caucuses on Monday night might not have been Ted Cruz.  It may have been a nominating process that fails to yield a clear winner.  A clear winner being a candidate who goes to Cleveland this summer with the presidential nomination in hand.    

At the end of Monday night, which count really mattered?  Delegates acquired.  As of this writing, Cruz has bagged eight delegates, Trump and Rubio, seven each, with four other delegates going to also-rans. 

Raw vote totals are what most folk tend to watch and weigh.  But in 2016, it pays to more closely follow the candidates’ delegate totals.  Thanks to the Republican National Committee (RNC), caucuses and primaries held prior to mid-March mandate proportional distribution of delegates based on candidates’ vote totals in given contests.  Most early caucuses and primaries impose threshold minimums to win delegates (say, Alabama, with a 20% threshold). 

Prior to Mid-March, 25 States, along with DC, Guam, and Puerto Rico, will hold proportional contests.  That accounts for 1,022 bound delegates (“bound” being delegates committed to a candidate for the first vote).  45% of the bound delegates will be picked proportionally or in “hybrid” formats, which include triggering provisions for larger delegate yields for candidates who meet higher vote percentage thresholds.  There are WTA (winner-take-all) thresholds, but those will be quite difficult to achieve.          

Starting with Super Tuesday, March 15, most of the remaining states have opted to hold winner-take-all contests, though a handful will continue to make proportional distributions.  From mid-March forward, 1,238 bound delegates will be chosen (Colorado’s delegates declare at convention). 

The number of delegates needed to secure the GOP nomination is 1,237.  There are a number of unbound (3 per state) and unpledged delegates.  The unpledged delegates are mostly establishment picks who would factor in at a deadlocked convention.  

Short of a breakout by one the major contenders (Trump, Cruz, and Rubio), it’s not hard to imagine a scenario where the proportional phase of the nominating process yields tightly packed delegate counts among the three.  Complicating matters is if new life is breathed into the Carson, Kasich, or Christe campaigns (as improbable as that appears).

But, say you, won’t the nomination fight be resolved with Super Tuesday and the subsequent contests? 

That could happen, but consider this prospect.  Cruz, Rubio, and Trump take roughly a third each of the delegates in the proportional phase.  For illustration, say, 340 delegates per man.  That means in the winner-take-all phase, one of the principals would need to capture 897 of the available 1,238 bound delegates to win.  That’s about 73% of the total or three out of every four delegates. Possible, but how likely?  This assumes, too, that the principals are competitive with one another, affording each the chance to pick off states.

Cruz, Trump, and Rubio have the resources to stay the course.  Trump is self-funding.  Cruz’s fundraising operation is already solid and benefits all the more from his Iowa win.  Rubio’s stronger than anticipated finish in Iowa boosts his fundraising.  And as Rubio consolidates establishment voters -- as he began doing in Iowa -- and lesser establishment candidates drop out, expect a significant upswing in his campaign’s financial fortunes.  

Writes Michael Snyder at “Before It’s News”: 

[I]f no candidate is able to secure enough delegates, that means that we would end up with a “brokered convention”. The mechanics of a brokered convention can get quite complicated, but on a practical level what that would essentially mean is that the party establishment would get to hand select the nominee. And in case you are wondering, that would not be Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. 

                               

Snyder’s assessment is flawed in a couple of respects (though not his conclusion about the candidates). 

“Deadlocked” versus a “brokered” convention, the more accurate designation is “deadlocked.”  A brokered convention suggests that party bosses call the shots nearly exclusively.  The party boss era in American politics is long past.

Though unpledged delegates -- who are likely establishment recruits -- will play a critical role at a deadlocked convention, it’s important to remember that bound delegates are only committed to their candidates on the first ballot. 

Thereafter, they’re unbound.  Candidates’ and, perhaps, dark horses’ (yes, a draft is possible) primary focus for vote gathering will be among all those plentiful unbound state delegates.  If the convention deadlocks, it’s going to be the Wild West, with plenty of wheeling and dealing, barroom brawls, shoot-outs, shenanigans, and backroom deals.  But all that will occur across delegations and not just among the establishment few.

Snyder’s guess that the nominee won’t be named “Cruz” or “Trump” should a deadlock occur is reasonable.  Deadlocked conventions -- if past brokered conventions are any guide -- tend to nominee candidates who at least appear more centrist or moderate.  At a deadlocked 2016 Cleveland affair, the buzz word may be “electable.”  Right now, Marco Rubio seems to fit the bill.  As Snyder pointed out in his article, that’s not an endorsement; it’s merely an observation.

If the Republican field narrows to two principal candidates, then the chances for a deadlocked convention melt away.  But if, as anticipated, Cruz, Trump, and Rubio (and possibly one or two others) remain in the race, then a deadlocked convention moves from “maybe” to “probable” with each passing primary, caucus, and state convention.  The Republican presidential nominee who emerges will have done so after the fight of his political life – and ours.  



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Your right that is through out all politics. There are no more Patriotic Politicians like Rand and a few others. Their are far to many selfish career Politicians who want their slice of Bilderberg pie.

Kevin,

The problem is we don't have that kind of leader, not even Trump. It will take time for the paradigm to shift to the point where a future leader will emerge. None of the current crop of hopefuls would be the best leader but like you say we can eliminate Hillary, Sanders, Rubio unless he's picked for vice president, We at this juncture must pick the least offensive potential and then start working on developing real leaders from the ground up. It was a long process getting to where we are now, and it will be a long process to get back to where we should be.

Not only do we have to choose what will in all reality be the second or third best man for the position and hope he stays true to his word, we need to really start working on an Article V States petitioned for Amendment Convention. This should be done in conjunction with the Convention of States movement and the leaders of both of those groups must of necessity come to a mutual compromise situation and show a united front to Congress and the nefarious powers that be behind the Progressive movement.

We need to repeal at least three toxic amendments and propose at least six more. the three that have taken away the States Constitutional powers are the 14th,16th 17th. They all need to go

The proposed amendments need to be;

A properly worded Balanced Budget Amendment that will not serve to just increase taxes so the balance can be reached.

Term limits for Congress of 12 years total regardless of which house they are served in.

An amendment that would prevent SCOTUS from legislating from the bench. i.e. if they found a new law unconstitutional they could not comment on it but must send it back to Congress for Congress to fix.

An amendment that would require Congress to immediately evaluate any and all executive orders with the authority to repeal them should they not comply with the Constitution and the peoples wishes within Constitutional strictures.

An amendment to require Congress to obey all the laws they make.

An amendment that would allow 7/8 of the states to overrule any law Congress makes.

An amendment that clarifies the 2nd to mean every adult citizen who is of sound mind has the right to own and operate any weapon the military has with the exception of nuclear and the guidelines for sound mind must be stated clearly and concisely.

Many more need to be made, any suggestions? Please keep them general and all encompassing within the Constitution.

M Your plan would need time. We are out of time.We At least needed to get a good leader now to be able to by more time..Obama has re arrainged our military leaders, He has changed  Marshall law.Hell he had Lavoy murdered in hopes of kicking of an event were he could call Marshall Law. The sage brush rebellion has the criminals of NWO running scared,People have not seen this because they including you M are to entrenched in your own agenda that you are missing it.Ammon Bundy has been beating the drum with others like Lavoy and the MSM has got everybody fooled. I brought the BURNS PROJECT HERE SO EVERYONE WOULD SEE. And it is more hopeless than I thought. You are good people. But you are blind.If you doubt what I say , Prove me wrong. I wish you could. but the truth is you can`t. I can only hope that beating the drum louder might help. Why did George Soros environmental group show up in burns. Why were so many federal dept.of justices resources put in Burns for a few Cowboys with hunting riffles. And no one engages in my thread except a few.Very scarry how MSM has everyone here fooled. I thought the members here were ready. They all say MSM is deceiving, but yet they just keep drinking the cool aide they serve.

Alfred E Newman!

Good one Charles.

YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY......BUT YOU CAN NOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY.

Another good one Kevin

I can understand Kevin's concern about Burns. No matter what is going on, too many of us are getting older, and are too far away. We don't have the ability, the money, nor the understanding enough to reach out.  And by now, the only thing that can make a difference, is legal intervention and slow moving legal process.

As for the political picture, we can only work to get a Republican candidate in the White House, and take over more of the Congress. Can we do it? Don't know. but we sure can try. Fighting against each other, won't do it.

I don't do enough myself. Writing letters and sending emails to Congressional representatives, sure, write letters to the newspapers and hope they get published, yes, attend some gathering - those that don't charge money, sure. Send money to candidates I feel are ones we need. Do that too, but not much.

Talk to strangers, threaten my family (they listen to me, yeah, right.).And read the posts from others who do much more than I do. Without them, no one would have a clue about the trouble America is in right now.

And I have to say thank you to all of you here on this site, everyone of you is making a difference.

Virginia I love ya, But your missing it. Getting a Republican is not the answer . Ammon Bundy has the answer. It is about getting people to know the truth of things . And understanding we as a country need to get united under a Constitutional Leader. The Supreme Law will fix everything. Selfishness is in the way. Selfish Greed are tools of the devil.Every American has God given rights. Not just Conservatives....I may not like the life Styles of some of my fellow Americans. But I will defend their right to live free. And that is how A good Leader will make us feel. JFK was one. But the NWO took care of that.

Virginia, As far as what you can do, Let me just say learn what I am saying yourself .So you can be confident in the truth of it. Do not just take my or `anyone`s word for the truth..But I will say Pray for God to tell you what to do, Pray for God to bless you with the tools needed to find the truth you seek. Pray for God to help you with the wisdom to use what you learn to help others see the Truth...God is always right there with you. Sit in the light of the Holy Spirit through Prayer. Bask in the warmth of The Holy Spirit to give you absolution of the process. I have a real Relationship with God. I am very Blessed in that. I do not think many people remember the path to The Holy Spirit. But they will find it if they truly want it. It is right there by your side. It always has been. You will have your answers, and you will know what to do.

Kevin you always talk about truth but the video uncut showing the man shot is clear and factual, and it shows him being shot only after he dropped his hands and went for his gun. So nothing to fight against, what is really going on with you is you are a left wing troll here to make conservatives look bad or crazy. The funny thing is you are so shallow in your efforts you blast every republican you make up and run with wacobullishit but in the end the elections will come and you and your party are going to be handed a historic loss. Look at the lies the DNC told about Hillary winning Iowa, when caucus goers complained in 5 districts they switched to "Well look into it" Americans see the fraud in the democrats and they are rebelling. You can discredit yourself here but it will not change the dying future of the Democrats. 

You would drop your hand to if you got shot in the side. The found A stolen 9mm gun in his inside pocket so they say . Lavoy did not own a 9mm . And He is not the type of person who would buy a stolen gun . He never had even a speeding ticket in his life . He was a true man of God. He was dedicated to restoring the Supreme Law of the land , The 2 Guns Lavoy took to BURNS stayed on the refuge that night. I can go on and on about this man. But It sounds like you watched the interview fromm CNN of the 18 year old, and your government news tried to sway the girl away from what she was saying. DV You are the perfect little useful idiot, or you get your money from the Bilderberg Pie.. I will bring the interview here in a minute so you can watch it again.

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