The Untruth About Donald Trump

[Rhodes]

First off this is more about how Trump is beating the media and how corrupt and simply foolish things have gotten. Stefan is not a shill for anyone and his presentation of analysis is impeccable. 

EXTREMELY INSIGHTFUL AND IMPORTANT!

See I even used caps to make it important :)

[Rhodes]

Wonder why this went to social issues...

hmmm 

[DE]

Rhodes at the bottom left there is a choice to where you want to post your discussion...Choose elections...Edit  your discussion now and and change it to elections..if you wish to put it there....:)

[Rhodes]

Thanks )

[jack ludwig]

I punished myself listening to this guy for over an hour to hear him say nothing. The media is winning and Trump is winning. Ninty percent of the general public think Trump is entertaining and not a legitimate presidential candidate, the ten percent that does is enough to possibly get him competitive in enough states but more importantly, it increases the market value of his name, which was his intention from the very beginning of this show. Everything Trump says is an exaggeration meant to draw attention. His comments have no value other than to serve his purpose to get attention.  

[Rhodes]

"Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe". Lex Luthor  

Well if you present an argument on the video I could answer it, this is nothing hyperbole.

[jack ludwig]

there is nothing to present Rodes, the video is hyperbole as is what Trump claims.

[Rhodes]

No it is a factual recounting of what Trump has said (far back as the 70s) and then how the media and other pols twist wording and play right into Trump's hands.

Stefan lays it out in rather well presenting what is said then presents what is said about what was said.

He presents nothing of opinion except in cases where its pretty blatantly obvious.

Show us the hyperbole you claim is presented in the video because I am doubting your honesty right about now and justifiably so.

[jack ludwig]

Stefan points out that Trump uses exaggeration to draw attention to his point and the media does the exact same only in the opposite direction, it serves both's objectives, That is my point. Most of us who follow the news know this about Trump and about the media. This Stefan guy is attempting to put Trump in a better light and the media as the villain when we all know it is a game played by both sides. No, it is not factual it was hyperbole by Trump, the media and Stefan. I have no interest to be dishonest on this matter, I can see the truth and you wish not to. Trump is all BS but he knows how to use that skill. This is how his entire business management is done. The media knows Trump is mostly BS, as does the average person, and they called him out but they too over exaggerate Trumps BS, for the effect that it brings. Stefan is doing the exact same thing but to serve his purpose.

[Rhodes]

You seriously go though all that not name one instance of objection. 

A valid question at this point would be do you know how to form an argument?

You do realize an argument is just a presentation to support ones case using at least facts and evidence supported theories that is why the term is used in court.

He's a poopoo head is not an argument and that is the level you keep attempting to take this. Is not, is too, is not, is too, isn't a reasoned discussion.

I have literally been reading about Trump and watching this guy since the 70s so I've no rose colored glasses to peek over concerning the man. Good bad ugly and admirable all pretty much laid out there for a very long time. 

Now if you think Stefan has an agenda other than the truth you might want to rethink that as he is very willing to also discuss Trump's short comings and has in the past and likely will in the future. I notified up front this was more an indictment of the media and professional politicians than any endorsement of Trump which you took it to be. Again you are wrong I literally hate that our choices have become so horrid that we are left with these two.

When you get past the Trump smells like sewer gas mentality let us know.

[jack ludwig]

Rhodes if you studied Trump you will know he has left a wake of financial destruction almost everywhere he has gone. He has learned the art of BS and it is well known. This is not an argument, it is an exchange of views. There is nothing for me to gain to present my facts to you for the sake of winning you over or proving I am right, neither means nothing. If you want to understand Trump do the research, I would think that would be your first obligation in finding the candidate of your choice. I am confident I have all the facts I need to make the best choice for myself and my family. I never stated anywhere or any time that I didn't like Trump, as a person and a businessman, not as president. He has learned to succeed by using his skill to BS and the good fortune of having a very nice fortune his dad left him. If he was a very good businessman with some entrepreneurial skills, he should have easily turned his inheritance into a sizable fortune in 50 years. Present the first fact that anything Trump says is realistic or true and that he has the ideas to fix the American problems. Why would I support someone who I do not feel has a clue on what our main problems are or how to fix them and then make statements that I think will potentially ruin America economically and put America in serious security risks. Since I live in America with my family I would not think I would make choices that could potentially bring harm to me or my family.