Things are about to get real

[kevin kiernan]

Donald Trump is licking his chops. He has a good chance to win the Republican nomination. He knows he can beat Hillary as I do also. .Donald is in the know of people that can take Hillary And Bill out of the picture for good. The Career politicians are not privy to the same knowledge that Mr. Trump is. This is a little sample of what I mean.

[jack ludwig]

Kevin, is Thomas freely allowed to comment about me without me  having the opportunity to respond? 

[jack ludwig]

M I am happy to learn that I provide a service for you. Now I will continue my compulsive blather so everyone will have plenty of opportunity to sharpen their skills.

[marrand]

M,

Yes, it's good practice countering liberal spin, but I do my "exercises" in the real enemy camp - New York Times comments sections. Those people are proud to be left wing, are open about it, and will waste no time attacking anyone disagreeing with them. Please note that the left takes pride in good debates - they love the lawyer concept of defending the guilty. Of course, they miss reality almost completely and that's where the fun begins. But lately they have resorted to plain name calling and smears against anyone speaking well of Trump; that became too tedious and I backed off for a while. 

NYT is the best place to sharpen one's skills. Arguing with jack ludwig will only dull them. 

[M]

Actually I feel it's good they are making those crass comments because they are making our points for us. most people have good BS detectors and use them. The more the Liberals protest without solid logic behind them the more they destroy their views.

[jack ludwig]

Marrand here is a news flash, no one argues with me on this forum they just resort to name calling and when that doesn't work they resort to asking to expel me from the forum. Pick your choice but you can't win by running away. 

[M]

Not true Jack,

I argue with you all the time, and sometimes even enjoy the arguments.

M

[jack ludwig]

maybe at some point you may have tried to argue with me M but when you saw others quickly turn to just name calling you joined the group.

[M]

No Jack,

I didn't. However I did express my belief that you lean towards the left, you are a good sounding board to whet and sharpen our debating skills with, and that you are as cantankerous as I am. That's not name calling, that's opinion.

[Virginia Foulk]

Not replying to current conversation - I have a serious concern. It appears that 2 previous Sec. of State members are considering endorsing Hillary Dillary - one being Henry Kessinger.  My  husband reminded me that H.K. had and may still be a lobbyist for the Chinese.   Not being up on all of this, thought I'd drop this idea onto the "Things are about to get real" discussion. Seems this would fit here, and that many of the members may have insight into Kessinger and his activities. What say you all.    

[marrand]

Virginia:

In my opinion, this doesn't mean much. For several reasons:

1. HK was the expert on events 40 years ago; the world has changed so much that such old expertise is barely relevant today. 

2. HK is member in good standing of the ruling elite who make a habit of protecting themselves. Trump threatens them. Hillary doesn't and Romney didn't. 

3. China, like all countries, employ lobbyists. Nothing wrong with that. Whether China's agent is HK or someone else very important doesn't by itself affect outcomes; only our government and the way they negotiate and legislate decide how much we lose or gain in relationship with China. 

[jack ludwig]

Mannard is correct Virginia in my opinion also. Once you are out of the DC loop it becomes very difficult to have much influence on outcome of policy. The first five years or so after leaving office you still are very attractive to special interest groups as long as you have strong political ties to high ranking elected officials. But as time passes, the issues change greatly mostly because of technology and it is difficult for those out of the DC loop to stay up to speed with the changes and their opinions hold less value. 

[kevin kiernan]

HK goes to all bilderberg meetings. His agenda is globalism.